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Life and Light in a Dark Place – Episode #782

Life and Light in a Dark Place

Life and Light in a Dark Place
Episode #782

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
With special guest: Ladonna Spears, Sue Casey

This the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #781

Do you want me to tell about what God said to me? I’ve said it before but even at fourteen I heard the voice of God or maybe I was a bit older; but very early He gave me this challenge. He said, “All your life you will speak from this little girl because she is your link to the suffering of humanity.” And so, she had a destiny of healing, that little girl.

That little girl was given empathy for the condition of the world, the world’s condition. You were connected to the brokenness and the fallenness of man through that scenario and that’s perfect.

And He gave my heart to such people.


And though I am sorry that you went through that though I’ve had moments of railing because of, you know, I’ve railed because of the things that were done but outside of that railing, outside of rights, outside of that this isn’t…whatever, I do see the blessing behind it.

And for me to enter in and know the scenario and be able to enter into the blessing of it and to say, “This really was a blessing. This really had made you.”

I think that that’s kind of like what I was saying when I had my finger juiced off and Jesus came into that dark place, that dark fearful place that I lived in all my life and He came into it and He worshipped the Father through that place and Pauleau and I just went through that part of the book where He entered into a worship less, Godless place because it was all darkness and fear. Jesus said, “I’m not going to chastise you for this. I’m not going to correct you about this. I’m going to come in there and be what I want to be in there. I’m going to worship My Father in that very same place. And I’m going to send life into that place by worshipping My Father.” Not coming and comforting me in that place. It was being what He wanted to be there and He brought life and light into that dark place. And I will never be the same.

It’s like He swallowed the darkness and poured it into praise.

He absolutely did. He swallowed it.

And in that was your own healing.

Absolutely. But it wasn’t attending to my pain in the moment with the finger, which I had a lot of pain. It wasn’t dealing with my fear. It was months that I would close my eyes and I would see my finger shooting out the side of that juicer and my whole body would shake. I was in shock!

But He went into that place. I’ve never experienced worship like that. I’ve never witnessed or experienced worship like that. That was the most intense worship I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Though I was completely involved because it was in my body it was not about me. It was all about He and the Father and bringing me into that union. But it wasn’t focused on me. “Come on John, lets go.” No, it was just total focus on the Father. And it sucked me up. And it’s not like Hosanna music was playing and I was swaying back and forth. It wasn’t any of that. It not like He didn’t care but it just wasn’t…

He transcended it.

It totally was. I as about He and His Daddy and worshipping and being unified with He and His Daddy in me, in my body. I’ve never heard anybody say that nor have I ever seen that anywhere. I do know that there was a scripture. In the book I give a scripture that specifically talks about that, what happened. I forgot what it is now…

I don’t remember either.

Gene and I were watching a film last night and the one thing I took away from it is a woman told another coworker, “Broken people save broken people.”

The scripture reference is II Peter 1:19 NLT Because of that experience, we have even greater confidence in the message proclaimed by the prophets. You must pay close attention to what they wrote, for their words are like a lamp shining in a dark place—until the Day dawns, and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts.

That’s what happened. He came in and shinned in a dark place and became the Morning Star shining in my heart. It’s gorgeous!

This week I had an experience. I live alone and the lights went out a couple of times, not for very long, just a few seconds. And then they went out. And I thought, “It is really quiet” so I went to the window and there was no light. I live in a neighborhood and it was really dark. And I said, “You know what? I’m not going to be afraid. I’m fine. I’m taken care of. I’m protected.”

At the same time my son-in-law and daughter who live across the street were at the Braves game. And his watch told him that the lights went out and he said, “Oh, Sue’s alone!” But I wasn’t….

And then this morning when I left to come here, it was not quite daylight but when I got up to the road to come out of my neighborhood, the sun was coming up and the sky was so red and I was driving along and I always feel so wonderful because I’m going to be with this body,of Christ, and I thought, “You know, when You come in the clouds even if it’s in the middle of the night it’s going to be so bright because You are the Light, You are the Light of the world; it’s going to be so bright. We are going to be so excited. I want everybody to be excited because they are going with Him.

I had a really wonderful father, earthly father, and he protected me from so much. I didn’t know it until a couple of years ago and I’m in my late seventies. This boy told my son that my daddy worked at the gym in Hapeville and he told all the boys, “Don’t you dare touch her. I will get you!” So, it kind of gave me comfort in my old age that that’s why I didn’t have any dates. I just thought today that is so sweet that he was looking after me and protecting me from lots of stuff.

God has done that for me, too. Being a widow it’s delightful, really. It’s a new life. I’m so grateful for Him. I’m so grateful for these promises that you have brought to us that are real and He’s proven it to us.

Thank you, John, for sharing your life and we got to see it.

You were pretty young. What was the scripture again?

II Peter 1:19

It’s precious.

Life and Light in a Dark Place – Episode #782 – Shulamite Podcast

Pay close attention, for the Light shining in a dark place—until the Day dawns, and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts.

2 Responses

  1. Helen Whaley says:

    That the SON may bring glory to the FATHER…
    In my dark place of fear, I’ve wanted to ‘cover-all–the-bases’, so I wouldn’t fear; instead, that produces fear. All-the-bases become my responsibility, because independence will make a breach. Flesh will always do that..unjoin itself..to be center. God chastened me to my core & I repented…but I didn’t know how I’d ever get out of the dark pit of my fear. The One Who IS CENTER, went where He wanted to go, with His Father…in me, not about me. HE was in Holy compassion for His own, that’s about HIM…His gift & movement, focus & touch. When we desperately..need..to the end of ‘me’, we long for Him for others. GOD fills brokenness with Himself. In spite of me. HE Lives Who He Is! Living water…no rope, no bucket, no trip to Jacob’s well…living in the “supply of His satisfaction”…this is union. “…and you shall be called Repairer of the Breach, Restorer of the streets to Dwell in.” (Is.58:12) He goes beyond any place we’d think He’d go, because of Who HE IS…Incalculable!

  2. Sandy says:

    You are all very precious too …

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