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Heaven and Earth Witness Our Choices
Episode #634
1-27-2019
With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special guest: Joan Wentzel
This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #632
Heaven and earth are called to witness our choices and they do! And once our choice is made, God moves heaven and earth to support that very choice.
Martha:
This is Psalm 23, the last two verses. “So why would I fear the future? For your goodness and love pursue me all the days of my life.” That is profound! “Then afterward, when my life is through, I’ll return to your glorious presence to be forever with you!” It says, “So why should I fear the future?” He is pursuing us to the last breath to help us choose Him. Imagine!
John:
I didn’t even really realize when I was driving that, that was what was going on. It just was going on.
Martha:
Well, you do it all the time. That’s one reason.
John:
Well, it’s pretty amazing. It just… It literally was so natural. But I realize that there was a choice that was being made. That I wasn’t really… I wasn’t thinking about that. It just all of a sudden came up and I was like going, “Oh, yeah, well, that’s, that is my choice.” So He was leading me like a Shepherd in my thoughts.
Martha:
Patting you along.
John:
Absolutely! Here, make this choice. Oh, okay that’s the choice and it is little choices. It’s little choices that, you know… There are the monumental choices, the big yes or whatever. But then there’s tons of little pat, pat, pat, pat to get us there. So…
Martha:
To choose what He chooses.
John:
It’s so natural and it’s so, so precious. It’s, it’s loving!
Martha:
I was about to say it’s loving. It’s His presence. So it’s the third day of the New Year. So it’s a good time to talk about choices.
John:
Yeah, because we’re going into 2019 and, and this is…
Martha:
And we’re reading this book by E.W. Kenyon and Don Gossett, Words that Move Mountains and really he’s teaching us to speak words that are our choice of what to believe. Even believing is a choice.
John:
Yes, absolutely.
Martha:
It begins— Everything spiritual begins with a choice.
John:
Right.
Martha:
And it can grow to a want and a desire and a passion but it has to begin with a choice. And so in these statements we’ve decided to draw up our own proclamation, affirmation of what we believe; what is, what is true, and…
John:
About our individual lives, about our individual circumstance. Not just like the statement of faith. We’re talking about individual, I’m, you know, about sickness, about, you know, whatever. This is what the Word says and this is what I am believing.
Martha:
And it’s so encouraging because this writer says that your affirmation spoken somehow produces the faith. When you affirm your belief aloud it establishes that in you and for you. And it’s heaven and earth witnessing your choices.
John:
Right. Exactly.
Martha:
And heaven and earth supporting.
Joan:
And God in His loving kindness knows there is honestly nothing else we can do. We want to believe that I can do something, I can affect something, I can change something, I have power. Honestly we want to believe we have a power. God knows that we are frail children of dust and we’re as feeble as we are frail and we have one ability and that is to choose.
Martha:
That’s right. Oh, Joan, praise the Lord! That’s it! That is it. Thank you. We can’t do anything but choose and if we don’t choose, we’ve lost everything. It’s not New Years resolutions of what I’m going to do differently this year. No, no, no! It’s nothing remotely connected to New Years resolutions. It’s, “This is what I will believe. This is what I choose.” And He will do the changing. He will effect the changes. He will effect the disciplines. The difference between choice and doing and that’s the division that’s so difficult for us to make. We believe if I don’t love God but if I say I’m going to love God or choose to love God then I’m just a liar. No, no, no, that’s… It’s a matter of the will. It’s not a matter of truth or error. If I’m supposed to love God, I can choose to love God and He will make that happen. He will make that come into being His own self.
John:
It’s says, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind.” You say, “I choose to love the Lord with all my heart, soul, and mind.” It doesn’t matter if I don’t feel love right now. It doesn’t matter if circumstantially I’m not in a loving place. The word says Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind and I choose…
Martha:
I choose!
John:
to love the Lord with all my heart, soul, and mind.
Joan:
And one thing I’ve learned is the “I will” has a prophetic part to it. You don’t just… You say it in the now but God carries it out. God’s the one who carries it out. So it’s a prophetic word. “I will love You, Lord,” means, He… “I will let You do the loving through me.” It becomes prophetic because He’s, He’s given it as a command and He doesn’t do that to, you know…
Martha:
To leave us!
Joan:
To leave us there. There’s a prophetic. There’s a whole prophetic thing to speaking it out. Means, “Ok, Lord, I have chosen this with You and You are the power, not me. I’m the choice.”
Martha:
He’s not asking you to do or be something.
Joan:
He’s not asking you to do.
Martha:
He’s simply asking you to choose. So you see, we are without excuse. That’s brilliant, Joan. I never thought of that that the choice is actually a prophecy. Of course, it is.
John:
That it’s an agreement with His word and then it’s prophetic.
Martha:
And so it has to come. It has to be.
John:
If you realize that all you have to do is agree with the word and speak it and then He does it, that’s, it’s phenomenal.
Martha:
It’s so easy.
Joan:
That, that’s it, John. You just laid it out in the simplicity, the beautiful simplicity. God gives it, we choose, we agree, He does the working out. He never asks us to do the work. That’s the Cain in us that wants to produce something, that wants to bring a work of our hands.
Martha:
To earn it.
Joan:
To earn it. “I want to have a part of it. Let me be part of it, God. I’ll partner with You. I’m happy to partner with You. But, but I need some credit here!” (Laughter) And He says, “No, no, you’re not capable.”
Martha:
No one will share His glory.
Joan:
No one will share His glory.
Martha:
And if you want to boast, boast in Him. I don’t think we understand, too, that… Suppose you have something you need to give up, that you know you have to give up and you can’t give it up. But you can say, “I choose to give it up. I choose to renounce it. I choose to be rid of it. I choose it to die.” And that… God picks that up. Heaven and earth are witness to your choices. And heaven and earth will support whichever way you choose.
John:
You’re talking about a word, you know, like this book. You’re talking about words that move the mountain. You are making that choice. You’re going according to what He says, what the word says and you’re saying, “This is what You have set as a standard for all of us to live by. This is Your standard and I am agreeing with that standard and I’m choosing that standard and it must be done.” It must be done.
Martha:
That is… If we could see on the other side, we would see the heavens shift according to our choices to obey God. And we would see enormous angelic activity to support our choice. What do the angels minister to us for? To support our choices for God. And you know the word “if” is in so much; if you will do so and so. And the word “if” means that you have a choice and you must choose. “If any man will follow Me he will lose all his possessions.” If means you have a choice. Are you willing to loose everything for Him? That choice has to be made or you are not His disciple. So it’s so simple. You did say it simply, John. I want to write it down when I listen to the tape.
John:
I’m gonna go write it down when I listen to the tape (laughs).
Joan:
That raises a question, Martha. Does my choice then release His creative power?
Martha:
Yes.
Joan:
Release His ‘let’. Because His ‘let’ is creative. But it requires my choice. So is that when I make a choice, I release His creative power, not mine. I can do nothing but my choice releases Him to come in and do what I can’t do.
Martha:
Exactly! He will create what we’ve chosen. And we don’t have to. We’re children. We’re sheep. All we can do is choose. That’s it. You’re right, Joan. That’s beautiful. Oh, Glory! So glad you’re here (laughs).
Heaven and Earth Witness Our Choices – Episode #634 – Shulamite Podcast
Heaven and earth are called to witness our choices and they do! And once our choice is made, God moves heaven and earth to support that choice. A sobering thought depending on how we’ve chosen! God’s is the power to do and ours is the power to choose.
