Agreeing with the Word is Our Choice – Episode #635

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Agreeing with the Word is Our Choice
Episode #635
2-3-19

With Martha Kilpatrick and hosted by John Enslow
Special guest: Joan Wentzel

This is the continuation of a series of podcasts started in Episode #632
We have a choice whether or not we agree with the Word of God, but do we see it that way? Our walk with God depends on our choice to agree with Him or not.

John:
You just put some highlights in this book (Words That Move Mountains); a couple of them. And if you string them together as one sentence, it’s amazing. “Can two walk together except they are agreed? If you want to walk with Me, God, you must agree with Me.” And then it says, “Ask for forgiveness for my failure to agree with Him and His word.” And I just was thinking, you know, Enoch walked with God and he agreed with Him.

And so all of this proclamation and affirmations and agreeing, it’s all, that’s where your choices are based. This is where your choices are based is your agreement with God and His word. And that does make it incredibly easy and it makes it incredibly relational and, and you always say, “I go back to that,” because it is that. It’s relational that, “Here, I want to show you!” It’s not like He’s, He’s hiding the choices. He’s not, He’s not, He’s not withholding them from you. There’s our accusation of Him that He’s withholding. He doesn’t withhold them. He wants you to see the choices, He wants you to make the choices because He wants you to be free. It’s not… That’s the whole thing where you think that, “This is too hard, God’s made it too hard, my life is too hard, my circumstances are too hard, my, my circumstances are impossible.” But He’s like saying, “I’ve laid out your circumstances but I also laid out every single thing that you need to choose to overcome and be liberated from whatever. So walk in agreement with Me.” And I’m like saying, “Golly!” I’m real excited about where we’re going with this. I really am!

Martha:
Well, I want to say the title of the book again. It’s a little book.

John:
The book and I’m hoping that we’re gonna carry this one. We’ve been kind of touching on it back and forth but I’m hoping we’re gonna carry this one and I’d like to be able to do a deep discount on it, but we’re kind of losing our discounts with this publisher. But… Words That Move Mountains by E.W. Kenyon and Don Gossett. And you can go to LivingChristianBooks.com and see if we, we’ve carried that one. And, or it’ll be in the transcript where you can get it. And I’m hoping to be able to do it. It’s just a small book but it’s so powerful. And really, I have been bobbling on the first nineteen pages back and forth and really, actually the first probably ten pages is the beginning.

Martha:
Me too, John. I can’t go much further. It’s just so wonderful.

John:
Right! It’s like ten pages I’ve been just going back and forth on and I’ve been looking at it and I’ve been and digging into the scriptures that he’s giving and I’m going, “Oh my gosh! Yeah!” I mean Enoch is one of my big huge heroes. God has made him one of my big heroes of the faith and for, to see that he agreed and walked God because he agreed with Him and that really was Enoch’s choice to agree with God.

Martha:
It says in the New Testament that he, he had faith and he pleased God. This testimony about him was that he pleased God. And he walked with God. In other words, where God went he went.

John:
Right.

Martha:
He chose to go where God went. And so he was raptured. There’s big secrets of the rapture in Enoch.

John:
But in then, but it said in Amos 3:3, it says, “cannot walk unless the two are agreed.” So that’s, that’s how he walked with God by agreeing with God. I don’t know, I’m, that’s just where I’m at. I think it’s really cool.

Martha:
It is really cool. I want everybody to have it and know it.

John:
Well, I mean, He shows you the choices. He shows you what you are to agree with.

Martha:
You don’t need the book to know that He’s, He’s going to give you the choices and the word.

John:
Yes.

Martha:
“If Your words…” “If you dwell in Me and My words dwell in you, you can ask whatever you want and it shall be done for you.” So it’s, it’s really a matter of proclaiming, affirming the word.

John:
Right, right.

Martha:
So this is an exciting new venture to the new year.

John:
It’s not an incantation or a mantra. You know what I mean? It’s not like you’re doing some…

Martha:
Right! John, thank you.

John:
Some magic potion.

Martha:
Magic, right. No!

John:
It literally is agreeing with the word…

Martha:
With the Word of God, um hmm.

John:
…which is Christ.

Martha:
And the word which the Spirit gives you.

John:
That’s it! Yeah and you can’t go, go just pick and choose and say, “Oh well, this, I, I like this it says that, you know, ‘I’m going to go take over the mountain!’ And then you go say, ‘I’m going to take over this mountain.’ No! The, the… No! That’s not the way it works.

Martha:
It originates with God.

John:
It has to originate from the Source.

Martha:
This is another choice in 1 Kings 18. Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions.” See, I believe the prophetic office or the pastor’s preaching, all of that, all that verbal stuff that we, we give out is to provoke a choice, is to reveal a choice to raise, to raise the desire for the right choice. And that every successful message is going to either make you hungry to choose or provoke you to choose or show you that you have to choose.

John:
Well, Jennifer told me the other day about your writings and mine, actually, that that is exactly what they do. They provoke a choice.

Martha:
Really?

John:
Yeah, I mean, you know some people are… I’m not a teacher. And really you’re not a real teacher. You have a different mantle on you. You know, you do teach but I, I wouldn’t consider you a teacher of the Word. You have a prophetic end to your word where it, it calls forth a decision. And He even told you that that’s who you are. You are decision (laughs).

Martha:
(Laughs) Yeah, yeah.

John:
And, and I kind of feel like I’ve, I’ve kind of come under that mantle, that my stuff… I was asking her, you know, about the, the book on sovereignty that’s about to come – The Sovereign Touch. And I was asking her about that book and I said, “What is the takeaway from it? You know, what, what is it… Because I don’t… It’s not like it’s giving you a method to, you know… Some books, you know, you get a 1-2-3 method and you can, you can take that away and you can go apply that into your life…

Martha:
Work it.

John:
…and work it, yeah, the life application of it. And, but, what is, what is the takeaway of this? And she says very similar to what Martha… It’s a decision; it’s a choice.

Martha:
You reveal the choice.

John:
Yeah.

Martha:
You expose the choice.

John:
Yes.

Martha:
You make it clear what the choice is…

John:
Yes.

Martha:
…in that book.

John:
Well and that, and think about your The Mystery of Discipleship devotional. That entire thing is literally choice after choice. It literally walks you through the choices.

Martha:
It gives you the choices so you know what to make.

John:
What to make, to make, be a disciple. I mean, if you want the mystery of discipleship, that is laying out discipleship in a, in a ninety-one day devotional.

Martha:
In ninety-one choices.

John:
Exactly! And, so but Adoration, Chariot of Fire, All and Only, even Altogether Forgiven, all of your booklets, all of them bring me to the stage of making a choice, where I have to choose one way or the other.

Martha:
And if I read it, I am confronted with that and I cannot escape it.

John:
Right.

Martha:
And so I will have, I will have made a choice…

John:
Yeah.

Martha:
…in response to it, even if I ignore it like Martha did. But that’s the most crucial thing to know because if your life lives or dies, rises or falls, goes to life or to death by your choices, then is that not?

John:
It’s the biggest service that you could do for somebody to give them that.

Martha:
Is to show them the choice, that there is one.

John:
I mean, if you give me a 1-2-3 method of things that I can apply to my life and I can do things, but I don’t make any choices, that’s horrible.

Martha:
And that’s why the, the Lord said, “Work out your own salvation in fear and trembling.”

John:
Right.

Martha:
…because it is so serious. It’s… I said it on the first tape about our inheritance, our salvation, rather (So Great a Salvation). It’s a responsibility to be born again. It is such a huge gift but it is also enormous responsibility to live it out.

John:
Was that from So Great a Salvation?

Martha:
Yes.

John:
It was amazing. And it is, it’s a, it’s a tremendous responsibility and the, the repercussions and the consequences of that, or taking it up or not taking it up, are so huge.

Agreeing with the Word is Our Choice – Episode #635 – Shulamite Podcast

We have a choice whether or not we agree with the Word of God, but do we see it that way? In Enoch we see the power and favor that falls on the one who walks with Him in agreement. Our walk with God depends on our choice to agree with Him or not.